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One Of The Fastest "family" Cars For Sure! I want to see Blackshine with this title one day.

#1 User is online   PrinceValorum 

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:55 PM

This guy, Jime, pronounced Jimmy, has a 1995 Maxima with the VQ35 swap (out of the 350z or similar for those not familiar with Nissan motors) and the STOCK AUTOMATIC transmission. It's NA and he has run 12.3 @ 111mph ALL MOTOR! With nitrous, he managed a blistering 10.85 @ 125.55mph. That's in the quarter, not the 1/8th...

I don't know how he does it. He's got the stock internals on the motor, he said it hasn't even been apart before.

I think Blackshine will be here some day and bring fame to all of us 626-ers.

Here's all the stuff backing it up because I'd never believe it without it.

His website:
http://www.jimesmaxima.com/index.html

Youtube:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=A0Rj76q5Vyw
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:05 AM

I guess that's cool, but it's not the stock engine. If someone put a 4-rotor in a 626, I'm sure it would be fast....
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 10:33 AM

Very true. There's speed6's faster with there stock motor still. But thats a quick car none the less!
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:14 PM

The VQ35 is just the a bored out VQ30, and the 35 was offered in later Maximas, anyway. Regardless, the fact that he's using the stock auto tranny from the that car is pretty amazing.

Yeah, a 4-rotor in a 626 would probably make a fast car, but this guy has done hundreds of runs per summer, so that also speaks to the reliability. And he drives the car to the race, even 7 hours away or something. The 4-rotor was never offered in the 626, though. Blackshine swapped an available motor from a 626, too.

I'm not trying to start a cross-company war here, I'm just not sure how he managed a low 12's all motor with basically nothing but bolt-ons.

The fastest MS6 I found on youtube was a 13.02, which is a long way off of this.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:17 PM

i don't think i've ever seen a 4 rotor, i was planning to start work on a 3 rotor hopefully next summer, but not for the 6
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 03:07 PM

GOD DAMN
that's one fast maxima.

I love Nissan's, that VQ35 is one HELL of a performer! My friend has an '02 maxima with that v6.. dear god.
It's quite a wonder. =)
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 06:44 PM

Yeah, I'd have to agree completely, Wireless. I drove the 370Z this summer with the VQ37 and it was pretty fast. I only went a few exits on the highway with it, so I didn't really get to test it out. The Mazdaspeed3 I drove was more fun I think. And half the price.

A 10 second car is still a 10 second car. It's not like Fast & Furious...
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 07:50 PM

Yeah, I know right? lol

"it doesn't matter if you win by an inch, or a mile."

it does if you only beat a civic with a fart can by an inch :P
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 08:45 PM

How can you beat someone by a mile in a quarter mile race? To beat someone by a mile, you'd have to be going in reverse and cover 3/4 of a mile, and then you'd have a much faster car.
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 03:37 PM

personally not a big fan of the vq line, i think if you are going full race you need an iron block, granted there is a lot that can be done with an aluminum block and iron sleeves, i think the vq just isnt made for full race, walls too thin, but that being said, they have made over 1800 hp on it, so something must be right http://forums.fresha...ad.php?t=159347
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:31 PM

I wanted a 350z from the instant it came out because of the way it looked before I knew anything about cars. I'd heard that the VQ's couldn't hold up to much because of their thin walls and aluminum construction. That one making 1800hp has steel sleeves and just a short block will run you 10k. That guy probably built his entire car for less than that. I'm not trying to crap on your post, but they're very different. It's eye opening that the VQ has that much potential, though. The builder on that thread said that the VQ has more potential than even a ported 2JZ because it can flow more CFM. I wish I had the money and know-how to do things a fraction of this impressive.

I'm not a big fan of aluminum blocks, either. Aluminum is for pop cans. Iron is for blocks. Nissan did it right with the KAs and the SRs, though. Those are iron and can handle a heck of a lot of power.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:51 AM

for the last one, I gotta strongly disagree.

"The VQ having more potential then a 2JZ"

for all, who think this is true: Google "boost logic's supra"
worlds FASTEST supra with a build 2JZ tt converted to single turbo.

as for facts, the JZ line has much stronger push rods, and stock block 2JZ-GTE's have much stonger pistons(turbo pistons) and can support MUCH more torque, balanceing compression and with a few bolt-ons there are some N/A 2JZ-GE SC300's with 600+ power to the wheels!!

I now on the otherhand: the VQ line is notorious for responcivness (mostly due the the stock set up) and the VQ35DE has a much lighter forged crankshaft then a 2JZ.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:41 AM

The guy said that the VQ has more potential than the 2JZ because it *can flow more CFM.* When you're trying to make the most power possible, you're going to need more air in the cylinders. I believe that the 2JZ is a much stronger engine over all, but I think the guy has a point. The whole point of a turbo is to flow more air.

I checked out Boost Logic's Supra, and it ran a 7.9 on Youtube. Maybe that's not the fastest vid, but that 350Z ran a 6.7 I'm pretty sure. They did say they were going to turn the boost up on the Supra, so maybe there are more recent vids, I'm not sure.
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 10:58 PM

View PostPrinceValorum, on 26 November 2009 - 11:41 AM, said:

The guy said that the VQ has more potential than the 2JZ because it *can flow more CFM.* When you're trying to make the most power possible, you're going to need more air in the cylinders. I believe that the 2JZ is a much stronger engine over all, but I think the guy has a point. The whole point of a turbo is to flow more air.

I checked out Boost Logic's Supra, and it ran a 7.9 on Youtube. Maybe that's not the fastest vid, but that 350Z ran a 6.7 I'm pretty sure. They did say they were going to turn the boost up on the Supra, so maybe there are more recent vids, I'm not sure.

I think that was the one were they decresed the boost down to 14psi. hitting fuel cut. lol I watched the one were he ran full bore at 28-36psi on an air strip
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:32 PM

if you really want a fast family car, google "brabus rocket"
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